{"id":716,"date":"2025-10-28T10:12:19","date_gmt":"2025-10-28T10:12:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/connectingconcepts.com\/?page_id=716"},"modified":"2025-12-02T13:12:28","modified_gmt":"2025-12-02T13:12:28","slug":"episode-5-clicking-on-to-gas","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/connectingconcepts.com\/nl\/podcast-watts-to-add-power-off-the-grid\/aflevering-5-vastklikken-op-gas\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 5 Clicking on to Gas | Podcast Watts to ADD &#8211; Power off the Grid"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"716\" class=\"elementor elementor-716\" data-elementor-post-type=\"page\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2cdb1d1d e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"2cdb1d1d\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4020af73 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4020af73\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-330e5644 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"330e5644\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Oplossingen voor netcongestie in Nederland \u2013 en de rest van de wereld<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-67e1482b elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"67e1482b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Watts to ADD<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1ec92d3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"1ec92d3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Aflevering 5 - 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Elke aflevering verbindt idee\u00ebn uit het <a href=\"https:\/\/amsteldiscoverydistrict.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amstel Discovery District<\/a> en daarbuiten \u2014 waar innovatie, duurzaamheid en creativiteit nieuwe manieren aanwakkeren om te wonen, werken en floreren. Sluit je aan terwijl we ons afvragen: wat komt er daarna? en voeg nieuwe energie toe aan het gesprek.<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-85d1661 elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"85d1661\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<iframe data-testid=\"embed-iframe\" style=\"border-radius:12px\" src=\"about:blank\" width=\"100%\" height=\"352\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"\" allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/2j4r4TCfNg4w3RFSg78PkQ?utm_source=generator&amp;theme=0\"><\/iframe>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-de81981 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"de81981\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"68\"><strong data-start=\"3\" data-end=\"66\">Aflevering 5: Vastklikken op Gas | Watts to ADD \u2013 Power off the Grid<\/strong><\/p><p data-start=\"266\" data-end=\"753\" class=\"translation-block\">In deze aflevering van Watts to ADD bespreken Guusje en Dirk-Jan wat het \u00e9cht betekent om je \u201cvast te klikken op gas.\u201d Nu duidelijk wordt dat elektriciteit nog jaren op zich kan laten wachten, leggen ze uit waarom gas een pragmatische \u2014 maar ook controversi\u00eble \u2014 tijdelijke oplossing is geworden. Ze praten over ontwerpkeuzes, financiering, vergunningen en de balans tussen duurzaamheid en realisme. Een open gesprek over de uitdagingen \u00e9n kansen van bouwen in een tijd van energietransitie.<\/p><p data-start=\"755\" data-end=\"992\" class=\"translation-block\"><b>Themes: <\/b>#WattsToADD #VastklikkenOpGas #Energietransitie #DuurzameOntwikkeling #Netcongestie #ToekomstVanEnergie #GasOfStroom #Innovatie #SlimmeInfrastructuur #NederlandEnergie #Klimaattransitie #Vastgoedontwikkeling #Amsterdam #AmstelDiscoveryDistrict<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fb3ed4d elementor-widget elementor-widget-n-accordion\" data-id=\"fb3ed4d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;default_state&quot;:&quot;expanded&quot;,&quot;max_items_expended&quot;:&quot;one&quot;,&quot;n_accordion_animation_duration&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;ms&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:400,&quot;sizes&quot;:[]}}\" data-widget_type=\"nested-accordion.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-n-accordion\" aria-label=\"Accordion. 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In de vorige aflevering hebben we de voor en nadelen besproken van gas, waarbij we tot de conclusie kwamen dat dit toch echt wel de beste oplossing is voor ons. Kun jij er meer over vertellen wat gas nou precies. Wat het nou precies betekent om vast te klikken op gas?<\/span><\/p><p><b>Dirk-Jan Houben: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nou, het betekent eigenlijk gewoon dat je keuzes moet maken. Je kunt niet maar blijven zeggen dat er van alles mogelijk is, omdat je dan vast gaat lopen in je vervolgproces. Van ontwerp van het van je marketingcampagne met het verleiden van partijen. Dus we klikken vast op gas in die zin van dit wordt onze oplossing zolang we niet op een andere manier daar elektriciteit kunnen krijgen.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">En wat zijn de risico's die hier aan vast hangen?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ja, dat zijn eigenlijk misschien wel meer met twee in hoofdlijnen \u00e9\u00e9n is. Je bent natuurlijk minder afhankelijk van elektriciteitsprijs, maar je bent volledig afhankelijk van de gasprijs. We hebben allemaal afgelopen jaren gezien wat dat kan doen, Zowel naar boven als naar beneden. Dat is \u00e9\u00e9n. En tweede is. Wij hebben natuurlijk een product wat we vermarkten als heel duurzaam. En er is natuurlijk een kans dat een groep die duurzaamheid heel belangrijk vindt het gaat zeggen ja, maar jullie gebruiken fossiele brandstof, ook al heb je geen emissies, ik vind het niet duurzaam. Nou ja, daar ben ik het niet mee eens. Want als je elektriciteit binnenhaalt dan kun je wel zeggen ik heb het groen ingekocht, maar dat is echt nul garantie dat dat van jouw net is. Groen is opgewekt. En volgens mij is het probleem niet zozeer de brandstof, maar het effect van de brandstof. En ik snap dat je niet eeuwig gas kan blijven doen, maar niks doen werkt echt niet. En dan komen we echt niks verder mee.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ja, en als we deze stap maken, betekent dat dan dat we op de lange termijn gas vastzitten? Of kunnen we in een later stadium nog overschakelen?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ja, wij zorgen ervoor dat we het zo ontwerpen dat we wel de aanvraag doen bij Liander. Dat betekent dat we ook een stroomaansluiting krijgen, alleen mogen we die niet gebruiken en dat betekent dat dat hij er nu eenmaal zit. Wij zorgen dat op gas de volledige oplossing die wij hebben dat het gebruikt kan worden. Maar mocht het ooit in de toekomst en welk jaartal dat dan ook is, zo zijn dat we wel stroom krijgen, dan is het gewoon een kwestie van de knop omzetten en dan zitten we in \u00e9\u00e9n klap op het net. En dan kan ook de hele gasinstallatie eruit.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">En welke invloed heeft de keuze van Nuon om in eerste instantie voor gas te kiezen op het ontwerp van het project?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ehm, ja, toch nog stiekem best wel wat. Want je moet die gas generatoren natuurlijk ergens kwijt. Je had misschien anders minder batterijen nodig gehad als je op het net had kunnen zitten. En die moet je ook ergens kwijt. Die ruimtes, nog los van het feit dat je die moet in ontwerpen hebben andere eisen dan wanneer het gewoon parkeergarage was geweest of op een andere plek. Dus daarom is dat vastklikt en dus ook zo belangrijk dat je dat nu meteen goed kan mee ontwerpen. en het integraal kan meenemen in het hele project.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">En welke invloed heeft dit dan op de financiering en de vergunningen?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Financiering. Het moet wel betaald worden. Het zijn geen goedkope oplossingen. Ik denk dat het aan de ontwikkelaar ligt hoe ze dat oplossen. Wij proberen dit met zo min mogelijk vreemd vermogen te doen, dus bij ons betekent dat tot op zekere hoogte dat het echt gerealiseerd wordt. Als er een huurder is en je belegging aan kan trekken en je een stukje zekerheid hebt in de financi\u00ebn. Dan kan dat tot een andere financiering en dus.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">De vergunning.<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">En de vergunningen. Jij zult hier denk ik toch wel iets van vergunningen moeten gaan doen die je moet gaan aanvragen, want je gaat een eigen verbranding realiseren en daar zullen vergunningen voor geregeld moeten worden. Maar wat ik ook al eerder aangaf is dat de gemeente daar wel in meedenkt. Want het alternatief is niks doen.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">En wat betekent dit voor de uiteindelijke gebruikers?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nou, ik denk in die zin positief dat zij nooit een blackout zullen krijgen, dus je zou zelfs kunnen overwegen. Ik weet niet wat dat financieel exact betekent dat je het laat zitten, ook als je op het net kan. Want stel er komt een black out dan kan gasgenerator direct overnemen, dus je gegarandeerd altijd stroom. Het betekent wellicht dat je per kilowattuur iets meer betaalt, maar omdat wij zo'n duurzaam project hebben waarbij we ook iets vragen van de gebruiker om rekening te houden met de hoeveelheid energie die het afneemt, zal de totale energieprijs niet significant hoger zijn. Ik durf zelfs stellen een stuk lager zijn dan wat ze tot nu toe gewend waren.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ja, en denk je dat gasgebruik dan in de toekomst beboet zal worden? Of dat dit toch wel echt breder als een tijdelijke oplossing gezien zal worden?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ehm, ik denk dat gasverbruik in de toekomst beboet zal worden in de vorm van carbon credits. Ik denk dat we daarop afgaan met zijn allen, ondanks dat het nog niet 100% doorheen is. Maar wat ik nu begrijp is dat op basis van de emissie en niet op basis van de brandstof. En dus als wij nu die CO2 afvangen dat dan heb je dus geen kou, hoef je geen carbon credits betalen. En nog sterker de verwachting is als je dat over dimensioneren en je kunt meer afvangen dan je zelf produceert, dat het dan nog een verdienmodel in zou kunnen zitten ook.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ok\u00e9. En uhm. Hoe voelt het dan voor connecting concept, zijnde als echt een pragmatische oplossing? Of is het toch een concessie die we moeten doen?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Allebei. Natuurlijk is het een pragmatische oplossing omdat wij nu wel kijken naar die over dimensionering en dan kun je zelfs zeggen dat je de planeet beter maakt, ondanks dat je deze oplossing kiest. Maar het is natuurlijk een concessie. Het liefst hadden we gewoon op het net gezeten.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ja ok\u00e9. Nou, super interessant. Uh, we hebben hier al kort de duurzaamheid aangehaald en dan gaan we de volgende aflevering dieper op in.<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Super leuk!<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/details>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-724246d e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"724246d\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-93bde1e elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"93bde1e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/connectingconcepts.com\/nl\/podcast-watts-to-add-power-off-the-grid\/episode-4-een-niet-zo-gek-idee\/\">&lt; Vorige<\/a><\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div 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