{"id":773,"date":"2025-11-04T12:23:12","date_gmt":"2025-11-04T12:23:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/connectingconcepts.com\/?page_id=773"},"modified":"2025-12-02T13:24:46","modified_gmt":"2025-12-02T13:24:46","slug":"episode-8-no-solution-for-everybody","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/connectingconcepts.com\/nl\/podcast-watts-to-add-power-off-the-grid\/episode-8-geen-oplossing-voor-iedereen\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 8 No solution for everybody | Podcast Watts to ADD &#8211; Power off the Grid"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"773\" class=\"elementor elementor-773\" data-elementor-post-type=\"page\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2cdb1d1d e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"2cdb1d1d\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4020af73 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4020af73\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-330e5644 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"330e5644\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Oplossingen voor netcongestie in Nederland \u2013 en de rest van de wereld<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-67e1482b elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"67e1482b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Watts to ADD<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1ec92d3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"1ec92d3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Episode 8 - 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Elke aflevering verbindt idee\u00ebn uit het <a href=\"https:\/\/amsteldiscoverydistrict.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amstel Discovery District<\/a> en daarbuiten \u2014 waar innovatie, duurzaamheid en creativiteit nieuwe manieren aanwakkeren om te wonen, werken en floreren. Sluit je aan terwijl we ons afvragen: wat komt er daarna? en voeg nieuwe energie toe aan het gesprek.<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-85d1661 elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"85d1661\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<iframe data-testid=\"embed-iframe\" style=\"border-radius:12px\" src=\"about:blank\" width=\"100%\" height=\"352\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"\" allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/2gsDJBkI35xfalziHqKW29?utm_source=generator&amp;theme=0\"><\/iframe>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-de81981 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"de81981\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"68\"><strong data-start=\"3\" data-end=\"66\">Episode 8 \u2013 Geen oplossing voor iedereen \u2013 Watts to ADD | Power off the Grid [Dutch]<\/strong><\/p><p data-start=\"371\" data-end=\"921\" class=\"translation-block\">In deze aflevering van <b>Watts to ADD<\/b> staan Guusje en Dirk-Jan stil bij een confronterende realiteit: hun innovatieve gasoplossing is geen wondermiddel voor iedereen. Ze bespreken waarom hun aanpak alleen werkt onder bepaalde omstandigheden \u2014 waar infrastructuur, investeringen en regelgeving het toelaten \u2014 en waarom veel andere projecten nog steeds vastlopen. Van politieke traagheid tot marktrealiteit en stilvallende ontwikkelingen: deze aflevering laat zien dat creativiteit en realisme hand in hand moeten gaan bij het oplossen van de Nederlandse energiecrisis.<\/p><p data-start=\"923\" data-end=\"1191\" class=\"translation-block\"><b>Themes:<\/b>\n#WattsToADD #GeenOplossingVoorIedereen #Energietransitie #Duurzaamheid #Netcongestie #Innovatie #CleanTech #NederlandEnergie #SlimmeInfrastructuur #Klimaattransitie #Vastgoedontwikkeling #AmstelDiscoveryDistrict #Amsterdam #ToekomstVanEnergie #Energiecrisis #connectingconcepts<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fb3ed4d elementor-widget elementor-widget-n-accordion\" data-id=\"fb3ed4d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;default_state&quot;:&quot;expanded&quot;,&quot;max_items_expended&quot;:&quot;one&quot;,&quot;n_accordion_animation_duration&quot;:{&quot;unit&quot;:&quot;ms&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:400,&quot;sizes&quot;:[]}}\" data-widget_type=\"nested-accordion.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-n-accordion\" aria-label=\"Accordion. 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In de vorige aflevering hebben we hebben we besproken wat er allemaal komt kijken bij de GAS oplossing op UH op praktisch vlak. En in deze aflevering gaan we bespreken waarom dit wel of niet een bredere oplossing kan bieden. Voor wie kan dit wel een oplossing bieden en voor wie juist niet? Ja.<\/span><\/p><p><b>Dirk-Jan Houben: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ik denk voor de meeste mensen niet en dat heeft te maken dat. Dit komt bij ons onder andere naar voren omdat wij die grote gasaansluiting nu eenmaal hebben, omdat die in het verleden een groot leeg stuk centrum van de VVD stond. Die hadden die grote gas aansluiting nodig om te zorgen dat die sprinkler niet zou bevriezen in de winter. En dat zorgt er nu eenmaal voor dat we hebben het. Ik vermoed dat als dit nu op grotere schaal toegepast wordt, dat hetzelfde wordt gezien als die klein verbruik aansluitingen. Dat ze zeggen dit is een trucje, dit willen we niet, we stoppen hiermee. Dus ik denk wel dat het werkt voor mensen die al gas aansluiting hebben. Misschien een groep slimme ontwikkelaars dat die op korte termijn gebruiken, maar ik vermoed dat het daarna dat er gewoon een halt aan geroepen gaat worden. Ook omdat we misschien ook niet steeds meer gas willen gaan importeren nu we Groningen hebben dichtgegooid. Het wordt er niet goedkoper op.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">En bij welk soort projecten past dit dan? Juist wel of juist niet?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ik denk dus dat projecten die die gasaansluiting hebben. Wat ook wel een rol speelt is denk ik de locatie omdat het is. Het is geen goedkope oplossing. Als je in een gebied zit met lagere huurprijzen dan dan dan gaat het niet terugverdienen op deze manier. En dan denk ik gewoon dat het financieel niet relevant is om ons zo naar te gaan kijken. En dan is het gewoon geen oplossing voor je.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Zouden we iets dieper in kunnen gaan op de technische begrenzingen van deze oplossing?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ja, ik denk dat dat nog wel meevalt. Dus als je niet geen rekening houdt met de input van het gas. De techniek die er achter zit is redelijk schaalbaar. Dus dat valt mee. Ik denk dat je daar een heel eind zou kunnen komen. Maar er zitten gewoon bepaalde vraagstukken aan. Of dat is wat we willen op de lange termijn.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">En qua wettelijke grenzen.<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ook nog niet op dit moment. Maar ook daar geldt natuurlijk wel dat er verdragen getekend zijn, dat we minder fossiel willen gaan gebruiken en minder CO2 uitstoot willen hebben. Dat laatste hebben wij niet, maar dat zit wel een correlatie met dat fossiel verbruik. Dus ik vermoed ook dat daar, en hoewel die wetgeving er nu nog niet is, als wij ons willen houden aan onze handtekening uit het verleden, dat dat op termijn wel begrenzingen in gaan komen.<\/span><b>.<\/b><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Dus deze oplossing zal niet de norm worden. Denk je echt dat dit verboden gaat worden?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ik denk niet dat het verboden wordt, simpelweg omdat we. Ja, ze zijn al lang blij dat er nu een oplossing is, ook al is die niet ideaal. En ze zouden graag een andere ideale oplossing willen, maar daar zijn we gewoon simpelweg nog niet. Dus het verbod niet. Ik denk wel dat er een punt komt dat we het op een andere manier kunnen oplossen. Dat ze zeggen nou kappen we ermee. Maar dan zal het altijd gaan over nieuwe gevallen, niet over bestaande gevallen.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Denk je dat het probleem van net congestie straks een concurrentievoordeel zal zijn.<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nee, daar ben ik echt van overtuigd. We hebben het opgelost door simpelweg onze concurrent die niet oplost. Je hebt niks om aan te bieden, maar ik denk ook dat de manier waarop wij onze congestie opgelost hebben, dat het voor bedrijven die van hun werk afhankelijk zijn van elektriciteit van technologie. Die kunnen zich gewoon geen black out permitteren en die net congestie wordt steeds heftiger. Dus de kans op blackouts gaat toenemen. En hier kunnen wij nu gewoon garanderen dat je geen black out hebt.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Wat kunnen anderen leren van ons traject?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ehm, nee. De basis hoop ik dat het voor sommigen een oplossing is. Als we kunnen over dimensioneren, zelfs misschien voor meer dan sommigen. Maar ik denk dat het allerbelangrijkste is kijk creatief naar je project. Wat heb je en wat hou je over? En ga daar mee spelen en haal professionals in huis om dat stuk voor je op te lossen.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Wat is er nodig om dit breder toe te kunnen passen?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ehm, veel meer expertise, technologische ontwikkeling en ja, Hoop dat we dat. Dat we dit op termijn op een andere manier gaan oplossen dan waar we nu mee bezig zijn.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Denk je echt dat het zover gaat komen dat we straks op een punt komen dat projecten gewoon niet meer door kunnen gaan?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ja, eigenlijk wel. Je ziet het eigenlijk al op het moment dat een bedrijf op een wachtrij wordt gezet die in 2037 keer ingevuld wordt. Dan kun je er eigenlijk gemakshalve vanuit gaan dat het niet meer doorgaat, want daar zit zo'n periode van ontwikkeling tussen. Dat wordt op een andere manier opgelost of zo'n bedrijf trekt gewoon. Maar wat nog veel kwalijker is, is dat je nu ziet dat er sommige gebieden, ook woonprojecten, niet meer gebouwd kunnen. Maar dat betekent gewoon dat je prioritering niet eens meer in orde komt. En ik verwachtte ik zeg dat zelfs dat gaat gebeuren, dat dat geen geen vijf jaar gaat duren voordat we daar zijn.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">En hoe gaat de overheid hier mee om?<\/span><\/p><p><b>DJ: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ja, zonder dat ik meteen politiek wil maken, merk je dat regionale overheid hier erg druk mee is. We zien ook de problemen op zich afkomen en zit niet met de handen in het haar, maar ze zoeken ook naar een oplossing. En landelijke overheid. Ja, dat stond er ook daar een een. Iets van kwaliteit aan te hangen. We hebben te veel te snel nieuwe kabinetten waardoor lange termijn oplossingen voor ons uitgeschoven worden. En dit is er een van. Het is te laks en te traag en ik heb het idee ook dat omdat het bij het grootste gedeelte van onze bevolking geen rol speelt en je hebt thuis gewoon elektriciteit. Meeste werkgevers hebben gewoon elektriciteit die ze nodig hebben, dus ze komen er niet mee in aanraking. Dus de urgentie is gewoon niet helder genoeg. Dat zal waarschijnlijk duren totdat het echt ook woningen gaat be\u00efnvloeden en dan hebben we een veel groter probleem met zijn allen. En ik vermoed dat dat het punt zal zijn dat er eindelijk doorgepakt wordt.<\/span><\/p><p><b>G: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ja, dus eigenlijk kunnen we concluderen dat onze GAS oplossing geen breder alternatief kan vormen of niet voor iedereen een oplossing kan bieden. Nee, dat klopt helaas. Nou, dan gaan we in de volgende aflevering bespreken of net congestie \u00fcberhaupt nog wel overgaat. 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